Lucas Lee Graham is a director of photography and friend of Naz who lensed "Escape From Tomorrow" (the notorious film which was shot at Disneyland in secret) and "Suburban Gothic". Lucas talks about attending AFI, some of the logistics of shooting a film in secret in Disneyland, and shooting "Suburban Gothic", a new favorite of Naz from the director of another favorite of Naz called "Excision". The two also discuss another notorious film, a short film made at AFI which Lucas was cinematographer on called "The 8th Samurai". They also talked about working on "Little Blue Pill", the film in which the two met. Lucas also helps Naz with his tinder game.