Rick Darge and Naz have been friends for 7 years, he stops by to talk about his experience making his feature film Zen Dog, the making of which involved taking an entire cast and crew on a bus from San Francisco to New York on a beyond tight budget. They spoke about the making of the film, the film itself, the involvement of philosopher Alan Watts, and then at some point the two smoked a bowl, leading to talk of Reptilians, why drugs are good, the illuminati, Bill Cosby's involvement with the film "Sweet Sweetback's Badass song" and the film about the making of it called "Badasssss", the time Rick made an entire feature film in his teens and the panic he felt when the film could not be rendered fully on the night of the premiere, the fact that Naz is afraid of love, and Rick's strong recommendation of the Netflix show "Stranger Things."